Product-Based Pyramid Scheme?W hen people are recruited into Shaklee's pyramid-like MLM, or "Product-Based Pyramid," they are given a sense of hope and excitement with unusual stories about Shaklee retailers who became "wealthy and independent" by marketing to their family and friends. Reality check: Read a post that the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION published about Shaklee. Why do so many websites ask if Shaklee is a scam? We found evidence that Shaklee has propogated the internet with sites that claim to discuss the "Shaklee scam debate" and find in favor of Shaklee. Read a new legal threat to two of this page's contributors from Shaklee lawyer, Marjorie Fine, here. They are ready to pay for legal action to surpress the speech rights of their victims, with their victim's money. Will courts take this request and the money behind it seriously enough to entertain a case against victims' rights to speech and whistle-blowing? Because of the "discovery process" we hope so. We cannot emphasize enough that while all the victims we know lost everything they invested, Shaklee does NOT meet the legal definition of a pyramid. MLM Expert, Dr. Jon Taylor has found that they might be even more destructive, but no matter which definition you like, keep your money in your pocket. This site is here to protect you from losing it. They lobby regulators and lawmakers and they threaten victims who speak out about their experience, as evidenced here. Research shows that young people are particularly vulnerable to their upbeat sales pitch but the group lures people of any age with charismatic and likable recruiters that seem to radiate Shaklee success. Fast forward to the outcome and you can often find victims of Shaklee feeling cheated and down several thousand dollars after having isolated themselves from friends and family with the company sales pitch routine. Victims of social marketing scams almost always end up with fewer friends and less money than when they joined. According to many, that is the reality of Shaklee.
How is This Not a Pyramid?
A pyramid scam is just a scam in the shape of a pyramid. Is the Shaklee corporation legit, a pyramid or a scam? There is one technical distinction which makes their behavior 'legal' under current US law! Read research-based findings for the definition of a "product-based pyramid scheme" posted to FTC, identifying Shaklee in this category. (by Dr. Jon Taylor, MBA, PhD)
Did Shaklee create pages to come up when skeptics type "is shaklee a scam" into web browsers? If so, these pages would use the keywords, Shaklee a scam over and over on a page that ends up convincing you that the concept of a Shaklee scam is false, or that there is no Shaklee scam. Interesting... we did find pages just like that with keyword densities for those words over 4%. Guess who owns them? See http://www.shakleescam.net and http://shakleescam.com (This is how smart people fall for it) This way, when potential victims Google Shaklee scam, they find that there is no Shaklee scam, and they invest. Get it? If you found this public service before investing, know that we did this for you. Read a story of a victim here claiming this is a cult.. blog about this pyramid scam: http://asktheconsumeradvocate.blogspot.com
Shaklee Fast Track Compensation Plan
The Shaklee scam debate took a back seat this week as all eyes focused on the team responsible for decoding the compansation plan. Rumors that a compensation plan exists have routinely troubled those who have read it, but answers may be about one week away.
What could someone possibly say to convince you to join an MLM like this? Remember that smart people fall for this just as easily as anyone else, but that begs the question, "How?" In order to write that the video below shows a con-artist teaching marketers how to be better con artists we require some proof that Bo Short misrepresented financial data, encouraged "inventory loading" or focused on selling business opportunity over products. Instead we will ask, "Does the video below show a con artist, or someone who is your friend?" Is the Shaklee scam real? Are you glad you asked?
Beyond CEO Roger Barnett, let's look at Bo Short's affiliations in the social marketing aka attraction marketing or MLM underworld.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT95HPGTGUMJan 15, 2013 - Uploaded by CinchspirationWhy Lou Abbott, Bo Short, Ty Tribble Chose Shakleeby Lou Abbott... Natasha Nassar - My Storyby Natasha ...
Google Ty Tribble and see what comes up. If you decide to join Shaklee, you will need to trust that people like Bo Short and Ty Tribble want what's best for you.
"Shaklee scam" comes up here: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Pyramid_scheme
Do You Count?Have you been involved in an mlm before? If so, you can add your experience for free to a collective database for mlm facts. Make sure to be counted on FastForm. Click the icon below:Roughly 99.8% never make a dime at social marketing because they aren't supposed to. MLM Exprts agree that it is the most agressive, deceptive and unfair scheme allowed by law. Cult expert Steven Hassan suggests MLM participants are fed the belief that failure results from lack of hard work. It results from joining MLM.
|Is Shaklee a Product-based Pyramid Scam?|
|Official Shaklee Pyramid Scam Poll, 2013|
T he Shaklee company has some misguiding if not unlawful practices regarding refunds. When victims call 925-734-3636 to speak to "earning opportunity support" for a refund, they get 4-8 minutes of Shaklee ad recordings followed by a recording that asks for a telephone number so that the company can call him or her. There are documented cases of refunds taking up to two months and 10 hours of hold time. If you are considering becoming a Shaklee distributor, know the facts and make an informed choice. Put it this way, the FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION published a user post indicating that you will probably lose the money they convince you to invest. That part is simple.
"I'm in a similar position with my Dad. He's doing Shaklee sh**, where you buy their products .. and get other people to sign on as a 'gold member' and then they buy the products and they as well as he make profit. Yeah....it doesn't work. At all. He keeps putting money INTO Shaklee but never gets any back. There's no reasoning with them, because he's going to think that you're not supportive of his investments. Keep your mouth shut, and let him ride it out. He'll learn the hard way, unfortunately."
Or drink some Koolaid and build 100Gbps optical network taps for aggregated monitoring and surveiance of data packets:
Inflated Retail Price & Snake Oil
And yes, there's a catch. Shaklee products are generally priced 3-5x above retail market value. They work as well as any other soaps, vitamins or lotions but that begs the question, "Do I pay 3-5 times more because it's my darling/friend/grandson selling them if I can get the same thing for so much less at the local store?" You can buy network taps for less. For how long will your "customers" continue to pity and buy Shaklee products from you at such inflated prices? It doesn't take a gigabit network tap to see that anything sold over retail cost won't move in a free marketplace, and that's where magic comes in. As you will see from the Glacken Group, Shaklee distributors must routinely make inflated claims about the quality of these soaps, vitamins and skin creams. It's embarassing. And the products still don't move according to former distributors who contributed to this site. Do you want to sell snake oil?